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sauf erreur je ne crois pas qu'il y aura de démo xbox360

non moi je ne bannis pas mais bon faut pas me provoquer sinon je ferme Saga ou je supprime les droits d'admin de Zephyr quand c'est lui qui me provoque... :twisted:

oui on arrête avec generals :twisted:

encore heureux qu'il ne dit rien... Il ya Tchutch' puis Xen puis Zephyr... et moi je suis Tchutch'

tu ne massacre pas de mutants ni de civils avec le GDI !!! tu as des troupes anti-emeutes avec des armes à blanc dans MH

va lire le post de Predator sur Generals puis reviens...

pour les patrouilles, je peux répondre : oui... il y aura bien de nouveau des points de patrouille.

de toute façon c'est maintenant décidé, donc inutile de nous refaire le débat du forum officiel

Deuxième post : The change in the Radar for C&C 3 has been something long debated on our development team, swaying back and forth. The balance testers just helped confirm which way we wanted to go, they didn't make the change solely on their own. Bottom line, when 8 hardcore gamers are all liberating with the same argument very passionately about a gameplay mechanic change, then you don't stare at them and not look at it. We looked at it, we talked heatedly about it, we discussed it deeply within the designers on the team, and we decided, lets go for it. So far, all gameplay impact has been minimal to the extent that nobody is complaining. The basic way it works is: -regardless of your ConYard, you NEED enough Power to have a Radar. -if you have your ConYard but don't have enough power, then you don't have a Radar. -if you have enough Power but DON'T have your ConYard, then you DON't HAVE your Radar So really, your radar is now dependent on two other critical areas in your structures, structures you have at tech 1 right off the bat pretty much. This is pretty much the only gameplay mechanic we changed because of the balance tester tilt in argument. 99% of everything else was all balance related. We can't consult every issue on the forums because first off... -It start threads like these where everyone starts talking loud and non-sensical, some of you have good comments though ) -Secondly, there are certain gameplay ideals that can't be solved without playing the game. I can't come on the forums and propose this idea, because its one of those gameplay mechanics that you have to play to see how it feels. We played and tested, played and tested, weighed wit the balance testers, and right now, it feels right. So all i'm saying is, we can't voice every single change on the boards, its just not possible. You guys will play the demo, you'll play the final game, and we'll see how it goes. We're feeling confident it will be liked. This is not anything near a Stacraft clone, god forbid we should be put in a sentence like that, lol. This is a C&C game guys! One gameplay mechanic change as this, even if it is critical, does not change what the game is. We're trying something new. And by the way, the argument about Generals driving away fans, that argument is old and tired. Generals was a great RTS game that is still one of the most popular and competitive today. Many have tried to follow in its footsteps with its fast gameplay. Yes, it did drive away C&C fans who wanted another story in the Tiberium or Red Alert universe. That is a stinker, but at the time, the development team wanted to try a new direction. So, now we're back to Tiberium here with C&C 3. I'm happy. I know most of you are happy. I'm looking forward to hearing comments after you play the game. -Predator

De nombreux débats ont été lancés par des "fans" sur la suppression du radar sur les forums officiels depuis hier. Tous les arguments sont bons pour critiquer cette décision d'EA. Dans un long message sur les forums EALAPredator revient sur la méthode de balance de Command and Conquer 3. Les "Pro Gamer" invités par EALA sont de très bons joueurs de CnC mais aussi d'autres RTS. Ils ont testé le jeu durant toute la journée avec un tournoi. Cette rencontre a été suivi d'une scéance de Questions/Réponses avec l'équipe du jeu. EALA veut faire un jeu équilibré pour tous les types de joueurs et pour cela ils ne peuvent pas le faire seuls ni inviter tous les fans de la série. C'est pour cela qu'ils choississent des représentant de la communauté et des très bons joueurs. Il rappelle qu'on ne peut pas vivre dans le passé et qu'il faut toujours du changement, ainsi qu'il n'y a pas de livre de loi sur ce que doit être CnC3. Enfin il est sûr qu'une fois qu'on aura jouer au jeu ou à la démo, on comprendra les choix de l'équipe. Guys, nough on this argument. "Pro gamer" is just a term, in other words, its a way of saying we invited gamers here that are REALLY GOOD at C&C and RTS games in general. Its never going to be fair, we can't invite every C&C fan, period. And at the end of the day, an RTS game should be balanced for competitive play. If you don't want to play competitively, then you play single player, skirmish, or against your friends for fun. But for the massess out there that would like to climb the ladder, compete, maybe someday see us go to WCG, be said in the same breath as "Starcraft" or "Warcraft", lets not be ridiculous, we all want as balanced a game as possible, and truth be told, we're not going to do it solely on our own. We're going to reach out to hardcore gamers who we can bring in to the studio, play the game all day long, give us valuable feedback because Greg Black can't do it all on his own. And even if he had a team of balance testers, the entire dev team, and QA...which he has all of...it would still never match the feedback we get when we put the game in the hands of gamers. For this purpose, we need the best. Balancing C&C is not for the faint of heart and for us, its better to go with experience then none at all. It would be nice if people were more thankful in our efforts to working with the community from the community summit to balance testing to all our commication efforts through the message boards, podcasts, newsletters. For everyone who always says we don't do enough, well I say....who is doing more, or what is enough to you? Not everything in life is fair, thats a motto our parents all taught us. All we want to do is make the best C&C 3 game possible using whatever resources and motives we have to achieve that. Criticizing the radar move is not a surprise, the elite C&C fans won't understand until they play the game and of course as traditionalists, they think its a slap in the face. Its a slap in the face to think its a slap in the face Seriously.... Since when were we not allowed to shake things up, eh? Just because the Command Center used to do this in C&C, doesn't mean it has to do THAT in C&C 3. It's like I've always said, there is no book of law that says we must make C&C 3 this way or that. But certainly, a lot of our game has notstalgic throwback, faithfulness to the fiction, almost everything you'd want in a sequel to your favorite franchise. Its time to learn to live with change, we're not living in the past here. When you play the demo, give it a whirl and we will see how the overall gamer population reacts. While its a critical change, its not an irreversable change, but our hearts are set right now and we think people will learn to like it a lot. We all get jealous and envious, I mean, its tough to not be, but everyone who visits our studio for community summits or balance testing has earned their way through their work in the community or their noteriety. Its not always fair, but we do our best to select the best to represent you and make sure this community is constantly being heard. -Predator

tu n'es pas le seul qui va jouer sur la version xbox360

il faut savoir sue l'interface xbox360 pour tw a encore été améliorée pour accélerer d'avantage la prise en main? Et justement régler les qlqs probs restants de menus.

t'inkiete pas pour ça, on fera des parties ensemble

j'en étais sûr...

tu peux toujours le couper en t'attaquant à l'électricite...

dans un jeu à partie courte rien n'empeche de faire durer la partie, alors que dans un jeu à partie longue ben vous ne pouvez pas trop faire de partie courte

marrant ? pourquoi marrant ? :shock:

non, moi j'aime bien les deux... partie courte permet d'en faire +

oui et non... je suis sûr qu'il y aura souvent des tentatives.

ben oui on est en février...

il faut aussi voir qu'il y a déjà 2-3 batiments technologiques... moi cela ne me gène pas particulièrement...

lol il faut dormir de temps en temps effectivement...

allez... on va dire que oui...mais bien parce que c'est toi...

la galerie vient d'ouvrir donc n'hésitez pas à mettre saga en images... http://www.cncsaga.com/stickers/galerie-fanarts.html

ça changera peut être... l'équipe de XWIS travaillent pour rajouter de nouveaux jeux...